‘Give me your hand,’ he said. Could lead to some cool dynamics and storylines though. I know it's an unpopular opinion, but I do think that Abaddon could go toe to toe with Guilliman. The galaxy of 40k is now a war between warring administrators. Imagine it, Guilliman is leading a massive force to fight off a large Chaos invasion. Weeks of labour had been for nought. Disney Princess. M41, Saint Celestine suddenly appeared once more, claiming she had been resurrected by the will of the Emperor in the hour of His Imperium's greatest need. She appeared swathed in flame above the bloody Cadian battlefields of Kasr Kraf. Round 4: Ahzek Ahriman. Guilliman, held by some as a paragon among the Emperor's sons, forged his XIII Legion into a vast force of conquest and control. by VyRe40. Both Abaddon and Guilliman have gauntlet mounted bolters too, but I'm not sure if this guy will have one. Feb 2, 2015. B) Abaddon vs Guilliman is still a key piece of 9th Ed art. 000 years. Kharn has never died once (Dorn only put him into a coma) while Celestine has died countless times. Before empowerment I can only really think of him consistently beating Alpharius in a fight, maybe Guilliman? Possibly? Probably the result of just being the victim of the plot. Round 1: One on One. Imagine abaddon and co wrecking shop killing dozens of astartes with ease, when all of a sudden he hears them. ‘He may ambush you,’ said Andros. Abaddon is probably has more chaos fuel in him than Luther. Her skin is velvety black. With every blow, the Primarch of the Ultramarines sent mutated corpses tumbling through the air. Centuries later, after Abaddon the Despoiler had launched his Thirteenth Black Crusade and the destroyed of the planet Cadia, the Tech-Priest Belisarius Cawl, and Saint Celestine led a group of Imperial survivors into the Eldar Webway. Assuming that the Guilliman new sword is essentially an extension of the Emperors will it is basically time for round 2 of the fight to start. He basically waged a guerrilla war for a few days to lure Abaddon out, before falling upon him and his bodyguard like an 8th edition Smash Captain. Abaddon is definitely Primarch-tier at this point. 12. Context: Abaddon, having recently learned what Cawl and Yvraine are planning, sends some of his forces that he could spare to Macgragge to try and stop their plan of awaking the primarch. They fixed upon the massive, clawed figure standing at the glass. The sensibilities of this age did not appeal to Guilliman. Macragge's Honour is an Imperial Gloriana-class Battleship that serves as the flagship of Roboute Guilliman, the primarch of the Ultramarines and the lord commander of the Imperium. As Abaddon the Despoiler 's 13th Black Crusade raged on the Fortress World of Cadia in 999. r/40k • 21 days ago. Any clash between the two would be incredibly interesting to see, and honestly, without more knowledge about Guilliman's combat readiness I really couldn't call it either way. The Macragge's Honour was constructed during the Great Crusade as the second-largest vessel of its class and participated in the battles of the Horus Heresy and. Lion was maybe the the best duellist amongst the primarchs, yet he fought to a draw against chaos buffed Luther. "We are the Ultramarines, the Sons of Guilliman. We’re all waiting for the biggest showdown looming over the future of 40K – Roboutte Guilliman versus Lion El’ Jonson. Guilliman would beat Abaddon pretty soundly. With the Daemonsword he can take on Dorn, kill him in one strike. Guilliman would beat Abaddon pretty soundly. Guilliman soon? (White Dwarf) Per recent issues of White Dwarf, the Silent King has arrived in the Pariah Nexus to take command of the war there. GeneralJannis Death Guard tactics. Context: Abaddon, having recently learned what Cawl and Yvraine are planning, frantically sends whatever forces he could spare to Macgragge to try and stop their plan. •. ago. Nothing shall stay our wrath. Calgar. Abaddon however, I think is perfect. The foremost Black Legionnaires were mere yards away from the foot of Guilliman’s throne when the rune-panels on Cawl’s auto-reliquary flickered from red to green. Keep in mind that Guilliman's return was not until The Gathering Storm III. Round 5: Abbadon the Despoiler. An exceptional Astartes, and one that has spent the last 10,000 years marinating in Warp-juice, but he's still just an Astartes. Guilliman's no combat slouch, but Abaddon's got the chops and the experience. So, with the craze over the robot from Blackstone fortress being a man of iron I thought it as relevant as ever to ask about the existence of stats for them. Guilliman himself is balanced nicely in M41 on the weakness that there's only one of him. . On subsequent rounds the odds of Abbadon dying increase as Guilliman starts to hit on 3+, up to about 80. That was the time Guilliman wrote the codex, the time when Guilliman made himself lord-commander to oversee the reformation of it's central governance before stepping down. 3D printed case. Result a draw. “I see corruption, and enslavement to monsters that are worshipped as gods. Plus at this point in story he’s even bigger given he’s swollen with the power the Chaos Gods have bestowed upon him as Warmaster of Chaos. Crypto Im not the one who made the assertion. ago. Abaddon vs Jubal Khan, a. And if the High Lords wish to deny the authority of the Regent, know that they deny themselves to legitimacy of leadership of the Imperium, for they succeeded the Council of Terra on orders of Guilliman's reformation of the Imperium. . Abbadon has counter counter plan which was his real plan all along (he is a great Alpha Legion fan). Guilliman is projecting his disappointment of the 40k Imperium onto Calgar. Look about you. Lion was maybe the the best duellist amongst the primarchs, yet he fought to a draw against chaos buffed Luther. 🤕帝国之子 Guilliman是一个强大的战士，但与Abaddon相比，他的实力稍显逊色。他虽然是帝国之子，但他的力量和技巧并不足以与Abaddon相提并论。他的实力可能无法在战场上取得胜利，尤其是面对Abaddon这样的强敌。他的存在可能无法给敌人带来足够的威慑力量。The next book should have Abaddon and Robbie G battle against each other on Vigilus once the Ultramarines and Black Legion lock each other into a stalemate. Practical: Abaddon cannot match the concentrated military might wielded by Guilliman whilst his numbers are so bolstered by the Un-numbered sons. Ghaz isn't even at the level of a warboss under a primeork. Round four: 1v1 vs calgar. The Primarch’s appraising stare seemed to strip Tigurius down to his soul. He was already almost as big and strong as Horus before becoming the Warmaster of Chaos, and he's only gotten more powerful since then. Guilliman was very fucking lucky other Chaos Forces invaded the Scourge Stars. It would also affect the Abaddon vs Guilliman dynamic as Grandpa Smurf would be more afraid of his own mortality (Abaddon being the ONLY Astarte to kill a Primarch in a duel would be an. The Ultramarine finally landed a glancing blow, his fist pounding across Angron’s breastplate. Marneus Calgar Marneus Augustus Calgar is the Chapter Master of the Ultramarines and Lord of Macragge, the capital world of the star-spanning empire of Ultramar. ’ Lion/Imperial Truth faction vs Guilliman/overarching Imperium vs Abbaddon/Black Crusade vs Huron or Fabius’ splinter faction. Abaddon could not help himself. His. Abaddon tightened his grip on Drach’nyen and Khârn readied himself for the attack. He isn't; his model accentuates his size in the same way Tom Cruise always looks taller in his films than he actually is. The invasion is just bait though, designed to lure Guilliman into a position where he can be flanked and trapped by additional armies and fleets. Producers: Dave. After driving out the Chaos invaders, Guilliman immediately ordered a war council and a debriefing on the situation. IMO Abbadon < Guilliman < Chaos-Empowered Abbadon = Emperor-Empowered Guilliman. Subject: Roboute Guilliman size comparison. Knee deep snow, steadily falling. In a Vacuum I'd say they don't compare to Guilliman, but in practice all 3 are the best fits for their forces. The final battle of the war took place here, with Guilliman and Mortarion fighting each other to a standstill amongst the ruins of Iax. "May the odds be ever in your favour" Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl wrote: I have no clue how Dakka's moderation work. He took the slate and kissed the screen. Some people think Abaddon is awful as a villain, and. Chaos, and more specifically it’s probably Abaddon vs. Abaddon vs psykers . • When the blessings of all four Chaos Gods are with you, there is no such thing as ‘luck’. Roboute Guilliman versus Abaddon the Despoiler. He has new technology, since Cawl has been permitted to actually invent things and improve old designs. Then a primarch (average primarchs beat multiple custodes in a training match) would slaughter abaddon. The edit made me imagine the Emperor as Vince McMahon and Abaddon as MoD Undertaker, which made me want the 40K End Times to be a wrestling pay-per-view, with the main event being Abaddon and the Emperor VS Guilliman and Dante, with Eldrad, the Silent King and Vect as commentators and Ghazgkhull as the special guest reverie. Guilliman's on the other hand has a purpose other than keeping his own position secure and an objective. Guilliman has a blatant advantage over the Daemon Primarchs, his sword is. Business, Economics, and Finance. People say the Lion would hate the way the modern Imperium functions, but the only thing he would really object to. Even if they all die i think it is worth it because. People say the Lion would hate the way the modern Imperium functions, but the only thing he would really object to. Shortly after Azrael's conversion into a Primaris Space Marine, Vashtorr assaulted The Rock as part of the greater Arks of. Despite it taking many months in the Warp for Gulliman to return to Terra, Abaddon stays hidden away in the Warp instead. Guilliman had it as soon as he woke up, so wherever it came from he got it before his conversation with the Emperor. Abaddon is the chosen of the dark gods and he literally slow walked a plan for like a century then ripped the Imperium in half. Ghaz got his head chopped off by Ragnar. 999. The reverse is true. Available in various iPhone and Samsung Galaxy device sizes. So far, since the ‘official’ announcement of 2. . They get separated from their troops and find themselves staring at each other on a plain field. Emperor's Legion is a terrific book. Make of this what you will. After driving out the Chaos invaders, Guilliman immediately ordered a war council and a debriefing on the situation. Sanguinius, What transpires on the surface of the Throneworld, I cannot say. Abaddon the Despoiler’s latest onslaught against the Imperium saw the rebirth of the Prim Roboarchute Guilliman and the Avenging Son was given his father’s weapon to help him save the Emperor’s empire. Super high gloss HD coating. BrianDavion wrote: I think an abaddon vs gulliman fight is likely gonna happen if one looks at the two of them, it's pretty clear to me GW is setting Abaddon and Gulliman up as oppisite numbers. BrianDavion. While Abaddon continues the 13th Black Crusade with Vashtorr, Angron takes on the Imperial Navy. corax, Russ and the Khan disappear at some time either during the scouring or just after. Abaddon currently holds a top spot among the most powerful beings in the 40k universe. Something Horus himself failed to do, and something Abaddon does precisely because of Horus. So, Abaddon's big picture aims don't even make sense anymore. Abaddon would get facerolled by the Emperor in 1v1 combat. I think Abaddon is a perfect example of how primarch-sized models should be done, and indeed, the earlier FW primarchs are same size as him. ’Just a hypothetical situation that popped up in my head, because I can actually see something along these lines happening. Though Azrael is still healing from his wounds, he is now leading the Dark Angels against Abaddon the Despoiler and the Daemon Vashtorr's plot to destroy the Imperium, which has caught the Chapter in its jaws. Amongst all of the artifacts were 3 pieces to what he called the Key, which would open the Vault. He actually looks like a big guy in 40K scale rather than a model of another scale. ‘He will want to prove he is better by feat of arms. Tuesday saw Mephiston win in the Middleweight category and yesterday Abaddon the Despoiler took the Heavyweight crown. Fighting Skill. The invasion is just bait though, designed to lure Guilliman into a position where he can be flanked and trapped by additional armies and fleets. Army building rules are also extremely simple: 1+ Character; 0-1 of each Epic Hero; 0-3 copies of an individual datasheet. ago. Hateful art for a hateful time. Abaddon has fought Kharn to a standstill, he's gotten his ass handed to him by Eldrad, he held the upper hand against Celestine, beat a (weaker) clone of Horus, and has fought off several greater demons of different gods IIRC. Faction: Black Templars. Context: Shortly after the start of the Indomitus-Crusade, an increasing number of Psykers among the. Today, we. The Deamon Primarchs are as limited for staying in real space as any other greater deamon. Abaddon has blessings of all 4 gods, Drachneyan, and the talon of Horus. Game: Warhammer 40k. Over the 10 millennia that passed after the mortal wounding of their Primarch Roboute Guilliman, the Ultramarines defended the Realm of Ultramar against all manner of invaders -- some so strange as to defy the comprehension of the common man. In that case the clones only had the biology of a Primarch but not the warp essence infused into them by the Emperor. Amongst all of the artifacts were 3 pieces to what he called the Key, which would open the Vault. Remember to paint inside the area of the previous layer so you build a nice glow effect as you transition towards a bright centre. Sigismund vs Abaddon. r/40k • Completed the bolter gunrack on my Thunderhawk. “I see no power here”, said Guilliman, shaking his head in dismay. Abaddon is 12 PL. The Sons of Dorb suffer PTSD when they hear the Betrayer is on the same planet as they are and they want to run away. Namely to make sure the crusade actually takes place in a short period of time. Oh yeah and the Emperors sword is superior power wise to Abbadon's. Abaddon stepped back, pulling the sword free and kicking the corpse off. Abaddon 'killed' Rogal Dorn (or at least has MIA presumed deaded him for thousands of years). Dark Imperium: Godblight, the next book in the Dark Imperium series, was announced during the Black Library Preview way back in December 2020. ‘Guilliman is your father’s echo, heart and soul. But Sigismund believed. So he'll do everything in his power to make sure that a titan fights Guilliman instead of him. During the Ultramar Campaign, Belisarius Cawl and his Eldar allies managed to revive the wounded Ultramarines Primarch Roboute Guilliman as Ultramar was besieged by Abaddon the Despoiler's Chaos Space Marine forces. Roboute Guilliman is the Roman-inspired Primarch, and even his home world, Macragge, is basically just a version of Rome that Roboute made thrive. These changes include: -Better technology (grav tanks, new power armor, new. Round 3: Kharn the Betrayer. INSTAR 6. Guilliman-size looks just silly and wrong though. Ghaz got his head chopped off by Ragnar. . Suprised that Mortarion did not pull a Sigismund move on Guilliman (trade deadly blows with each other like Abaddon vs Sigismund) since he can't die but Grandpa Smurf can Reply. Abaddon is the big bad of the entire setting. Given that Luther may have been strong enough to 1v1 w/ THE LION (Maybe the best duelist Primarch) and he wasn't even a full astartes, I think Abbadon should be able to stand up to Guilliman pretty well. ”. In character. Mind wiped. Roboute Guilliman-----. In the Horus Heresy books, Abaddon is described to reaching up to Horus' shoulder and being taller than the other members of the Mournival. [deleted] • Shingster · 10/11/2017 in Warhammer 40k Lore. Lorgar is a weirdo who is barely mentioned in any codex and has never amounted to anything of any kind in 40K, outside a handful of novels that were set 10. The gods keep pumping him full of chaos juice to the point where it’s almost an even fight. Warhammer Fantasy Roleplay. Blackheart would be immediately and severely fucked if he were put in that situation. We know that the big showdown that is gearing up in the second Chapter of Vigilus is all about the Imperium vs. Vulkan disapears at some point befoee Guilliman os wounded and but later reappears over a 1000 years later. So, Abaddon vs daemon primarchs, let's use Mortarion as an example. Guilliman was not healing his subjects, for such was not his gift. Plus he has Drach'nyen, a sword that exists to destroy the Emperor. Along with the conclusion of a story that’s been in the works since the days of Roboute Guilliman’s awakening, new editions of the original books (Dark Imperium and Plague War) are soon. So perhaps its because I have only recently gotten into this fandom (about a year ago) but I actually like the fact that Guilliman and Cawl are making reasonable/progressive changes to the Imperium. Too hateful to learn. Grievous losses to the Unforgiven. Round Five: mother fing Roboute Guilliman. Result a draw. This must be done swiftly. While Abaddon continues the 13th Black Crusade with Vashtorr, Angron takes on the Imperial Navy. Check them. The Lion, on the other hand, has self admitted tunnel vision. The heresy of Hours and the Emperor echoes throughout time,as their sons do battle still accusing the other of grievous crime. So with both Cadia lost and the formation of the…Abaddon however, I think is perfect. Wings: It’s worth saying that while this version is lovely, there’s a picture of the regular edition inside the main book (rulebookception) and it also looks great, so don’t worry too much if that’s the version you’re planning on picking up. Abaddon vs Jubal Khan, a duel between. On the back you can see one of the earliest artworks of Abaddon. Reviewing Guilliman and Abaddons stats and weapons. It thus seems highly like that book 2 will focus on the conflict between Guilliman and Abaddon, and given that this is 40K, that they will clash – with insanely large swords. The poster covers the duel between Roboute Guilliman and Abaddon the Despoiler, framed by a couple of loyal and traitor Space Marines. Even ignoring that, he's wielding Drachnyen as well as the Talon of Horus. He finally landed a glancing blow, his fist pounding across Angron’s breastplate. Greater Daemons are definitely one of them. Takes place OUTSIDE of the warp. Nothing shall stay our wrath. 1 more reply. . Abbadon gets between 0. I don't really see Guilliman vs Abbadon as much of a challenge for. ’Lion/Imperial Truth faction vs Guilliman/overarching Imperium vs Abbaddon/Black Crusade vs Huron or Fabius’ splinter faction. putty & paint. Fight takes place on an open field and they start 100m apart. So with both Cadia lost and the formation of the Dark Imperium Gulliman and Abaddon are bound to have to face each other sometime in the future. 3)^3*(0. Horus Lupercal was one of the 21 Primarchs created by the Emperor in the earliest days of the Imperium, just after the end of the Age of Strife. Guilliman fails his 4+ resurrection. The Necron campaign against the imperials has been extremely successful under his command overall, and the Pariah Nexus is growing. From the epic brother vs. Guilliman isn't going to purge the Space Marines. Whilst we stand, we fight. Guilliman should be assassinated Caesar-style. On Monday, Lelith Hesperax lifted the Lightweight title. Vallejo Model Color. Hell, maybe you could say a few human psykers would be enough to kill. Guilliman knew his brothers well, and here, in this grandiose war engine, he saw all the hallmarks of the Daemon Primarch Magnus the Red. The meta-narrative is bigger than that. He actually looks like a big guy in 40K scale rather than a model of another scale. The High Lords of Terra, also called the "High Twelve," collectively form the Council of the High Lords of Terra, also known as the Senatorum Imperialis. Abaddon is an Astartes. Abaddon reduces Guilliman to four wounds, then a lucky roll of 6 for drachnyen finished him off. Guilliman vs Abaddon: Who would win in a Fight? Let's have some fun with the stats of some of the mightiest combatants of the 41st millenium and pitch Abaddon vs the. I think Abaddon is a perfect example of how primarch-sized models should be done, and indeed, the earlier FW primarchs are same size as him. They're smashing Guilliman against the various Chaos big bads (Mortarion, Magnus, Abaddon) in a lot of promotional material and storylines, but Guilliman doesn't thematically mesh with any of these guys. It’s because they became daemons and therefore are weaker than Abaddon now in a sense… they can technically be controlled with the right knowledge. Having engineered an ingenious plan that reached fruition over ten millennia, Abaddon is the undisputed master of the long game. Imagine playing Battlefleet Gothic and simping over Spire instead of Amarkun the motherfucking 'casually killing both Guilliman and Abaddon before sealing the Eye of Terror' Gatherer. Abaddon could almost smell his scorn, and the look in Eidolon’s eyes spoke of the very special place he kept in his heart for the XVI Legion. Gjalarhorn • 6 yr. This isn't complex. ‘My beloved lord,’ said Eidolon, ‘grows-‘Perty would have had to internally debate losing access to his shinier toys that had earned the respect of his peer Primarch brothers and relationships on the mend - particularly with Guilliman, who fiercely opposed the decimation but was so completely won over by the IW terminator innovations that he decided to copy them for his legion. Get Surfshark VPN at and enter promo code Majorkill for 83% off and 4 extra months for free!The Return of Guilliman was the. If you hadn’t noticed, Guilliman and Abaddon are meant to be fighting each other. A similar thing happened…Normal Astartes are seven feet, Primaris and Custodes are about seven and half. The odds of Guilliman failing to get an ID wound through on Abbadon in that time, given that his WS resets to 7 every four rounds, are (0. Sgt. The last slimes of his decayed flesh burned away, and a network of feathery capillaries spread in their place, bearing new blood unsullied by the Godblight. With the arrival of Guilliman and the quasi-alliance with the Eldar, the Imperium is resurgent once more, as Macragge is now the new Segmentum Solar and the Administratum is now being revamped. Humiliating if you ask me, considering how Russ beat Magnus, the second strongest Psyker ever yet Guilliman gets on his knees by an attack from an augmented guy. 4%. Like his "brothers," Roboute was taken as an infant by the powers of Chaos, and removed to a far-flung world in an effort to prevent the coming Age of the Imperium. Guilliman and Mortarion aren't about to be deleted, but they can win and lose battles that shape the setting. Mortarion chuckled. 1 Commander Shepard 317 · 10/11/2017 Theoretically? I have to say that in a straight up fight between the two, Abaddon would win. Since some Kairos was able to capture Guilliman then why imperium will not use the same tactic on Abaddon. Guilliman and Mortarion finally come face to face, and have a nice chat after being reunited as long lost brothers. The Lion wouldn't hate what Guilliman has done, Guilliman would hate what the Lion would do. Official Warhammer 40,000 phone case. Round 1: Lucius the Eternal. “On that, Roboute,” Magnus laughed, sparing a. Abaddon the Despoiler. Guilliman VS Abaddon in Warhammer 40K PO Box 1507. Kharn's name strikes much more fear than Celestine. Jubal’s arms swung, still bearing his broken weapon. on the sword, with the 12" flying movement seems pretty damn nice. Sure, he's a super administrator, but look at how he struggles to be humorous (Relating to 40k Guilliman) and in touch with his legion. 2K views 4 months ago. hypareal. One character becomes your Warlord, and that’s pretty much it. And while Abaddon has had time and opportunity to practice and gain experience, this IS Guilliman's thing - his specialty as a primarch. He always believed that they had a role in the Imperium once the Great Crusade was over. Considering Horus ripped through Custodians like they were toys in Galaxy in Flames and the Custodians accompanying Guilliman got ragdolled by the daemon in Dark Imperium (that Guilliman defeated) I’d say yes, Guilliman is far and away the strongest “foot soldier” in the Imperium. [push-split] Decorative Snap-on case, offering basic protection. Guilliman has contempt for the Primaris marines and sees them as tools which the Emperor did with his warriors. Big E. A primeork fought vulkan to a standstill, not even really breaking a sweat to do so. One is an Astartes on crack, the other is a Daemon Primarch. I shall issue a proclamation as Lord Guilliman and as the Chapter Master of the Imperial Fists that all Chapters shall release a portion of their veterans to provide the initial basis for this founding, the greatest since the First. including Traitors and contain forgotten knowledge unless you mean to say one of these 4 knew and wrote about. Guilliman having to defend the evils of the Imperium vs Abbadon showing a more passionate and integrated future where humanity owns its own souls is a really cool story arc. Your army can only include one ABADDON THE DESPOILER model. true to his self, he does not take the deal. If he's supposed to be Primarch level, he hasn't shown it. When the blessings of all four Chaos Gods are with you, there is no such thing as ‘luck’. The infant Guilliman's capsule fell to earth on. It should be the Space Marines of…The 13th Black Crusade of Abaddon the Despoiler began in 999. the eldar 40k heresy: abaddon and gulliman become a single gestalt being that revolts against both the imperium and chaos. He has forged the XIIIth Legion to be a disciplined and deadly force; one which fights with seamless tactical integration. Either Guilliman got it before he was put in stasis as a symbol of being the effective regent of the Imperium or he got it after meeting the Emperor on Terra. Guilliman’s eyes were glowing with pure, white power. Stats wise Guilliman would murder Abbadon (it's a primarch vs a space marine) but OP stated that pyschic powers were used to negate Guilliman's invunrable save so Abbadon had the advantage. The resurrected Roboute Guilliman charged Calgar to secure the rest of Ultramar from the Forces of Chaos as he embarked on the Terran Crusade. I didn't choose to fly in the "Dongerprise'. Over the course of decades and centuries, more and more DAoT technology is brought into Imperial use, steadily bettering the Imperium's industry, logistics and military power. The Tau Empire has been geting more brave and have started to go deeper into Impirial space, so them going to Ultramar is a possibility in the future. corax, Russ and the Khan disappear at some time either during the scouring or just after. 1. Robot Guillotine is a much more interesting character than Abaddon, people just don’t read books. Traditional accounts state. In the Ruinstorm, the loyalist fleet came across a variety of horrors and word of an entity spreading destruction known as the "Pilgrim". k0rda. Top loading bolter, but he's using a drum magazine, rendering the iron-sights near useless, and probably doing horrible things to the balance and handling. Abaddon was actually losing to creed during a duel and had to use his storm bolter during the fall of cadia. He's liberal, and he can actually fix things, but he can't personally attend to both Ultramar and the Imperium as a whole at the same time. It’s explicitly something even Guilliman himself hadn’t considered at that point. ‘I must fight him. ‘I need you here with me, brother,’ Guilliman insisted. funnily enough, when they finally had a real shot at victory, old Guilliman shows up. Would that be right?Cadia will be destroyed when Abaddon throws his last Blackstone Fortress into it. The Lord Regent sends out a force led by the Adeptus Custodes to investigate – and the Talons of the Emperor soon learn that agents of Abaddon the Despoiler have discovered a weapon that could threaten Terra itself. Even by feats, Mephiston + Ahriman alone should be severely threatening for a Primarch from a far enough distance. ‘He may ambush you,’ said Andros. Abaddon getting his empire in semi-realspace will be a cool direction for Chaos but only if it doesn't result in uniformity. People just want to hate on Abaddon. Warhammer 40k Necrons. Guilliman paused for a moment in his rampage, looking down upon this fallen son with an unreadable expression on his face. 0 coins. He was already almost as big and strong as Horus before becoming the Warmaster of Chaos, and he's only gotten more powerful since then. The survivors will trek to Ultramar and reawaken Guilliman with the help of the Eldar. One of the most iconic moments in Warhammer 40,000 lore, Sigismund, High Marshal of the Black Templars faces down Abbadon, leader of the Black Legion. No chance. Guilliman may not be the best physical fighter amongst all the Primarchs, but he still stands head and shoulders above what any Astartes could ever dream of attaining. Round 2: Roboute and Yvraine vs Dante,Asterion,Moloc,Mephiston, and saint Celestine. After all of the boons and blessings Abaddon has received from the Chaos Gods he is essentially up to the same level as a Primarch who hasn't ascended to Daemonhood, so I would expect Guilliman to come in at the same stats. 52. Abaddon is the Warmaster of Chaos, a Chaos Lord and the greatest Champion of Chaos. Bright decorations appeared as tarnish cracked and fell away. We’re all waiting for the biggest showdown looming over the future of 40K – Roboutte Guilliman versus Lion El’ Jonson. Guilliman decides the only way to win is to launch a decapitation strike. 0001728%, so I think I'm happy to conclude that Guilliman fighting Abbadon in 30k will always end with Guilliman's victory within at most two combat phases. All of this culminated in the first major battle of the Solar War, the Battle of Pluto. John; Revelation 9:11. Here’s a look at how their minis fit together! It’s a. sure the 13th Crusade definitely hurt the Imperium with the fall of Cadia, Great Rift, Plague Wars, mass daemonic invasions, etc, but I can only imagine the utter disbelief of the Chaos powers to see what they must have thought as sure victory fall apart. ’ ‘He will kill you, my lord.